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Same stove, different teapots

This blog was originally posted on December 2, 2007 as 'Sharing the Stove'.  This is a slight revision for an interfaith dialogue synchroblog.  Please check out the other (and some of them are 'The Sacred Other'!) submissions for this new synchroblog:

J. R. Miller (Christian) of More Than Cake on A Christian Approach to Interfaith Dialogue
Liz Dyer (Christian) of Grace Rules on Interreligious Dialogue: Risky Business
Matt Stone (Christian) of Glocal Christianity on Is Interfaith Interfaith enough?
Steve Hayes (Christian Orthodox) of Notes from underground on Interreligious dialogue
K.W. Leslie (Christian / Pentecostal / Assemblies of God) of The Evening of Kent on Gathering with the pagans.
Phil Wyman (Christian) of Square No More on A Christian Presenter at Pagan Pride!?
Beth Patterson (Liberal Christian w/ Celtic undertones) of Virtual Tea House on Same Stove, Different Teapots
Yvonne Aburrow (Wiccan Unitarian) of the dance of the elements on Only connect 
Jared at Musings of a Confused Man: Interfaith Relationships 
Andii Bowsher at houslife More Tea Wicca?

Same stove, different teapots

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"We don't have to be each other's cup of tea, but tolerance lets a variety of kettles peacefully share the stove." NPR This I Believe essay: True Tolerance by Joel Engardio

This is not a true 'interfaith dialogue' but more of an intrafaith dialogue--the distance between liberal, low Christology Christianity and Orthodoxy is as large, in my experience, as between faiths.  This post is an attempt to express one hand-across-the-gulf experience.

Last December (2007)  I had an email dialogue with my oldest 'surviving' friend--the one that has never let my lapses in communication phase her.  T. is an evangelical Christian, as we both were in our teens when we became friends.  T.  had me on a list to which she regularly forwards emails of a very conservative political nature. The content was usually pretty innocuous to me, and I'd been lazy in letting T. know that I'd rather not get the info she sends, and for sure I wouldn't be forwarding it to others.  But the forward she sent that week for some reason hit a nerve.  The content wasn't that inflammatory from my standpoint, but it was about 'taking America back' from those who don't want Christians to say 'Merry Christmas' or pray at sports events, etc.  The type was in bold face, big red letters, and seemed especially angry to me, and I'm supposing that's what I responded to.  

At any rate, I sent my friend a simple email letting her know that I didn't wish to receive this type of forwarded emails, and that it didn't have anything to do with my respect or love for her.  I went on to talk a bit about my belief that the circle should always be drawn bigger rather than narrower, etc. and that I felt that she is bigger than some of the doctrines she evangelizes with.

T. who is a level-headed, big-hearted mid-western grandmother, responded with an affirmation of love, an acknowledgement that we've always had different views on things and that that was ok with her, and let me know that she'd take me off the 'list' and would only forward specific, hand-picked emails.  I am grateful to her, as I remember in those long ago days of my own much more fundamental stance on life, knowing people who would have been so highly offended at my being offended that it could have caused a rupture in relationship.

But it didn't, and so I have been thinking about why not.

I think it's about the power of relationship.  I recently read an article in the Nature Conservancy magazine about bald eagles. The article talks about how juvenile baldies assume their adult plumage of the white head around 4-5 years of age, and at the same time end a period of exploration in which young birds have been known to roam half the continent.  At their adulthood, wanderlust seems to be replaced by site fidelity and the bird responds to a strong impulse to return to an area within 100 miles of its first nest.  

T. is part of that site fidelity for me.  We now live half a continent apart, and worlds apart in our religious views.  But the fact is that she's stood by me through all of my metamorphoses, always sending me a birthday card and loving greetings. It's like she's the center post of my adolescent religious self.  No longer what I identify with, but still a living, breathing part of me.  T. stands like a signpost.  She has gone through her own changes and is, of course, not the same person she was as an adolescent either, and her faith has grown and developed in deep ways as well.

The fact that I did not let her slip away as so many other friends have over the years and life transitions, because of her devotion to our friendship, has obviously been a beacon of some sort--still not understood by me, or probably not by her either.

The quote from the This I Believe essay that started this post is about a young man's journey, starting in a family that belongs to the Jehovah's Witnesses church.  As he has found his way and his voice, his mother could have easily pushed him outside the circle, but she didn't.  Here are Joel's words:

As a teenager, I decided fitting in at school and in life was worth sacrificing some principles. So I never became a Jehovah's Witness. That was the first time I broke my mom's heart. The second time was when I told her I am gay.

Obviously, I don't agree with my mom's belief that same-sex relationships are wrong. But I tolerate her religion because she has a right to her beliefs. And I like it that my mom doesn't politicize her beliefs. She has never voted for a law that discriminates against gay people, or anyone who isn't a Jehovah's Witness. Her Bible tells her to love, above all.

My belief in tolerance led to a documentary film I made about Jehovah's Witnesses, and my mom actually likes it. The message is about being open to letting people have views we don't like, so in that sense, it could also be about Muslims, gay people or NASCAR race fans. The point is the people we don't understand become less scary when we get to know them as real people. We don't have to be each other's cup of tea, but tolerance lets a variety of kettles peacefully share the stove.

I believe our capacity to tolerate both religious and personal difference is what will ultimately give us true liberty — even if it means putting up with an occasional knock on the door.

So, I give heart-felt thanks to T. who constantly works to make the circle larger, to love more fully, to see more clearly.  She and I are sisters, on different paths, with the site fidelity of love and respect. We're on our way to true freedom.  I honor being on the same stove--different teapots, with her, and many, many others. 

I have participated in interfaith dialogues through the seminary I attended, and since then, 'out in the world'.  While they have all been instructive and enlightening, none have been more so than this heart-dialogue with an old friend.

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Published Tuesday, October 07, 2008 1:34 AM by Beth Patterson

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Interreligious Dialogue: Risky Business « Grace Rules Weblog said:

October 8, 2008 10:55 AM
 

Grace Rules said:

Beth - Thanks for giving us a real life example of interreligious Dialogue - it is a reminder that we (us christians) don't do this that well within our own camps - hopefully these organized interfaith exercises will help prepare us for more success in our everyday lives.

By the way Beth - I made a mistake when I submitted the link to my post.  Could you please make a correction - the correct link is:

http://gracerules.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/interreligious-dialogue-risky-business/

Thanks - Liz

October 8, 2008 11:22 AM
 

The Musings of a Confused Man said:

Today is where I finally give in to another "cosmic conspiracy." For those who may not be familiar with such things, a "cosmic conspiracy" is where a topic or train of thought keeps coming up in my daily life to...

October 8, 2008 1:37 PM
 

Beth Patterson said:

Dear Liz--

Thanks--I corrected the URL--

And thanks for visiting and your comment. Yes, how can we do inter-faith dialogue when we can't do intra-faith conversation!!

I loved your post, by the way...

Thanks,

Beth

October 9, 2008 1:59 AM
 

Yvonne said:

Thanks for your comment on my post, Beth - I'm glad you liked it.  I like the Virtual Teahouse (it reminds me of the Poetry Chaikhana).

Actually, though, it didn't leave me your email address.  Are you on the religionrap mailing list?  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/religionrap/

October 9, 2008 5:53 AM
 

Beth Patterson said:

Hi Yvonne--

Thanks for visiting!

I just signed up for ReligionRap on Yahoo Groups. Thanks for telling me about it.

I'll also check out Poetry Chaikhana, and...I'll find a way to send you an email!

Take care,

Beth

October 9, 2008 10:28 AM
 

Mythology Blog: Between Old and New Moons » What does Interfaith Dialogue have to do with me? (Synchroblog on Interfaith) said:

October 9, 2008 6:47 PM
 

More Than Cake » 7 Conditions for Interfaith Dialogue said:

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The Virtual Tea House website became 'word-ripe' when, over a cup of jasmine green, I realized that the web has an expanding part to play in the communal aspects of spiritual growth.

With a master's degree in religion, my career spans 20 years in end of life care and I currently work in the field of child abuse intervention and advocacy.

Here in beautiful Central Oregon, my spiritual homes of the high desert and the mountains are both in proximity. And for good measure, four hours away is Grandmother Ocean and the stunning Oregon Coast.

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